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[MOSAIC] songs for reading, phonemic awareness and fluency
Kevin Kleinert
2007-06-30 19:25:15 UTC
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I have been reading the posts related to songs, reading and fluency. However, as an ESL teacher, here is my dilemma . I understand the importance of singing and reciting chants. Many ESL teachers use Jazz Chants/Grammar Chants and sing with their students.

My younger ELL students tend to come to school with limited to no pre - school experience and limited literacy skills in their first language. I spend a lot of time working on their oral language. Academic language is so important for the future success of my students. I find it hard to sing nursery rhymes or silly songs that have relatively no meaning, academic language or are just silly. They really not what my students need except for the phonemic awareness/fluency that comes from them.

I want to sing songs that teach important concepts and vocabulary coupled with the fluency, grammatical structure of the language and phonemic awareness. Can anyone suggest either a CD or songs that would benefit my students? Do you see where I don't see the value in teaching my students Humpty Dumpty or some of the cute silly songs that native speakers enjoy. I feel as though I don't have the time to waste. I need songs rich in language and meaningful vocabulary.

Thank you for listening and any suggestions would help.
Donna Kleinert
Bonita DeAmicis
2007-06-30 19:42:50 UTC
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Post by Kevin Kleinert
I want to sing songs that teach important concepts and vocabulary coupled with the fluency, grammatical structure of the language and phonemic awareness. Can anyone suggest either a CD or songs that would benefit my students? Do you see where I don't see the value in teaching my students Humpty Dumpty or some of the cute silly songs that native speakers enjoy. I feel as though I don't have the time to waste. I need songs rich in language and meaningful vocabulary.
Donna,
I have bought a number of content rich CDs from an online source. They are science and social studies songs that are fun to sing and filled with content language. I imagine they would be very useful in your situation. You can buy them as individual downloads and as full CDs. You can listen via your computer to many of them and see the words as well.

Some web pages:
http://www.illumisware.com
http://www.songsforteaching.com

:)Bonita
DeMilleReed
2007-06-30 20:40:24 UTC
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If you are looking for songs in English, I highly recommend American
Folksongs for Children with illustrations taken from artwork at the Metropolitan
Museum of Art in NYC. It has many, many quintessential American folk songs
which are rich in vocabulary and the illustrations familiarize the reader/singer
with many concepts, some very concrete and others abstract. Artists from
around the world and cultural and economic diversity are included in the
illustrations, as well.

Cathy


Title I Reading
Schodack Central School District
Castleton, NY



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DeMilleReed
2007-06-30 20:46:12 UTC
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Oops, I forgot to include the whole title to the American Folksong Book:

In and Out the Window, American Folksongs for Children with illustrations
from artwork at the Metropolitan Museum of Art

Cathy

Title I Reading
Schodack Central School District
Castleton, NY 12033




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Joy
2007-07-01 04:50:27 UTC
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I think they are more important than you give them credit for. My husband was born in the US, but his family were all German immigrants. He does not know any nursery rhymes, fairy tales, or traditional children's songs. There are so many nuances of our society that are lost to him. He felt so inadequate when our children were born.

Teach these to your children, they are not wasted time!




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Krista Sadlers
2007-07-01 12:40:29 UTC
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Donna,
I would strongly suggest music cds by Jack Hartmann and Dr. Jean Feldman
- I use them every day.
Krista
Post by Kevin Kleinert
I have been reading the posts related to songs, reading and fluency. However, as an ESL teacher, here is my dilemma . I understand the importance of singing and reciting chants. Many ESL teachers use Jazz Chants/Grammar Chants and sing with their students.
My younger ELL students tend to come to school with limited to no pre - school experience and limited literacy skills in their first language. I spend a lot of time working on their oral language. Academic language is so important for the future success of my students. I find it hard to sing nursery rhymes or silly songs that have relatively no meaning, academic language or are just silly. They really not what my students need except for the phonemic awareness/fluency that comes from them.
I want to sing songs that teach important concepts and vocabulary coupled with the fluency, grammatical structure of the language and phonemic awareness. Can anyone suggest either a CD or songs that would benefit my students? Do you see where I don't see the value in teaching my students Humpty Dumpty or some of the cute silly songs that native speakers enjoy. I feel as though I don't have the time to waste. I need songs rich in language and meaningful vocabulary.
Thank you for listening and any suggestions would help.
Donna Kleinert
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MetzoSue
2007-07-04 15:51:14 UTC
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"I think they are more important than you give them credit for. My husband
was born in the US, but his family were all German immigrants. He does not know
any nursery rhymes, fairy tales, or traditional children's songs. There are
so many nuances of our society that are lost to him. He felt so inadequate
when our children were born. "

I thoroughly agree with Joy. Literary references, similes and metaphors that
refer to nursery rhymes and fairy tales abound, even in adult literature.
Having taught inner city fourth and fifth grade as well as suburban
kindergarten, I have seen students struggle to understand the meaning of a piece of
literature, or poem due to a lack of exposure to these traditional poems,chants,
songs and stories. Your students would benefit from being able to join with
their classmates in comprehending classroom discussions. Our middle school
language arts teachers are constantly requesting that teachers in the earlier
grades spend more time on these classics.
Suzanne
kindergarten/NJ



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Joy
2007-07-06 19:43:15 UTC
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Plus, there are so many connections, so many similarities between cultures. Folk and Fairy Tales are fascinating glimpses into a society's culture.

MetzoSue at aol.com wrote: "I think they are more important than you give them credit for. My husband
was born in the US, but his family were all German immigrants. He does not know
any nursery rhymes, fairy tales, or traditional children's songs. There are
so many nuances of our society that are lost to him. He felt so inadequate
when our children were born. "

I thoroughly agree with Joy. Literary references, similes and metaphors that
refer to nursery rhymes and fairy tales abound, even in adult literature.
Having taught inner city fourth and fifth grade as well as suburban
kindergarten, I have seen students struggle to understand the meaning of a piece of
literature, or poem due to a lack of exposure to these traditional poems,chants,
songs and stories. Your students would benefit from being able to join with
their classmates in comprehending classroom discussions. Our middle school
language arts teachers are constantly requesting that teachers in the earlier
grades spend more time on these classics.
Suzanne
kindergarten/NJ



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